Concise Minutes - Children, Young People and Education Committee


Meeting Venue:

Committee Room 1 - Senedd

Meeting date: Wednesday, 4 October 2017

Meeting time: 09.20 - 12.24
This meeting can be viewed
on Senedd TV at:
http://senedd.tv/en/4311


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Attendance

Category

Names

Assembly Members:

Lynne Neagle AM (Chair)

Michelle Brown AM

Hefin David AM

John Griffiths AM

Llyr Gruffydd AM

Darren Millar AM

Julie Morgan AM

Mark Reckless AM

Witnesses:

Alun Davies AM, Minister for Lifelong Learning and Welsh Language

Catherine Lloyd, Welsh Government

Tania Nicholson, Welsh Government

Mair Roberts, Welsh Government

Emma Williams, Welsh Government

Committee Staff:

Gareth Rogers (Second Clerk)

Sarah Bartlett (Deputy Clerk)

Michael Dauncey (Researcher)

Lisa Salkeld (Legal Adviser)

 

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Transcript

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1       Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest

The Chair welcomed Members, there were no apologies or declarations of interest.

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2       Additional Learning Needs and Education Tribunal (Wales) Bill - stage 2 proceedings

2.1 In accordance with Standing Order 26.21, the Committee disposed of the following amendments to the Bill:

Amendment 37 (Darren Millar) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 1 (Alun Davies) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 2 (Alun Davies) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 3 (Alun Davies) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 4 (Alun Davies) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).
Amendment 76 (Darren Millar)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Mark Reckless

Lynne Neagle

 

Darren Millar

John Griffiths

 

Llyr Gruffydd

Julie Morgan

 

Michelle Brown

Hefin David

 

As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)).  Therefore amendment 76 was not agreed.


Amendment 87 (Llyr Gruffydd)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Mark Reckless

Lynne Neagle

 

Darren Millar

John Griffiths

 

Llyr Gruffydd

Julie Morgan

 

Michelle Brown

Hefin David

 

As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)).  Therefore amendment 87 was not agreed.

 


Amendment 5
(Alun Davies) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).


Amendment 77 (Darren Millar)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Mark Reckless

Lynne Neagle

 

Darren Millar

John Griffiths

 

Llyr Gruffydd

Julie Morgan

 

Michelle Brown

Hefin David

 

As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)).  Therefore amendment 77 was not agreed.


Amendment 22
(Alun Davies) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

 

 

 

 

Amendment 88 (Llyr Gruffydd)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Mark Reckless

Lynne Neagle

 

Darren Millar

John Griffiths

 

Llyr Gruffydd

Julie Morgan

 

Michelle Brown

Hefin David

 

As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)).  Therefore amendment 88 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 6 (Alun Davies) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 106 (Alun Davies) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 107 (Alun Davies) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 108 (Alun Davies) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 78 (Darren Millar) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 79 (Darren Millar) was not moved.

Amendment 7 (Alun Davies) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 8 (Alun Davies) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 9 (Alun Davies) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 38 (Darren Millar)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Mark Reckless

Lynne Neagle

 

Darren Millar

John Griffiths

 

Llyr Gruffydd

Julie Morgan

 

 

Hefin David

 

 

Michelle Brown

 

Amendment 38 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 39 (Darren Millar)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Mark Reckless

Lynne Neagle

 

Darren Millar

John Griffiths

 

Llyr Gruffydd

Julie Morgan

 

 

Hefin David

 

 

Michelle Brown

 

Amendment 39 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 40 (Darren Millar) was withdrawn in accordance with Standing Order 26.66(i).

Amendment 80 (Darren Millar) was withdrawn in accordance with Standing Order 26.66(i).

Amendment 109 (Alun Davies) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 81 (Darren Millar) was not moved.

Amendment 110 (Alun Davies) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

Amendment 111 (Alun Davies)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Lynne Neagle

Mark Reckless

 

John Griffiths

Darren Millar

 

Julie Morgan

Llyr Gruffydd

 

Hefin David

Michelle Brown

 

As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)).  Therefore amendment 111 was not agreed.



 

 

Amendment 89 (Llyr Gruffydd)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Mark Reckless

Lynne Neagle

 

Darren Millar

John Griffiths

 

Llyr Gruffydd

Julie Morgan

 

Michelle Brown

Hefin David

 

As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)).  Therefore amendment 89 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 90 (Llyr Gruffydd) was not moved.

 

Amendment 91 (Llyr Gruffydd)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Mark Reckless

Lynne Neagle

 

Darren Millar

John Griffiths

 

Llyr Gruffydd

Julie Morgan

 

Michelle Brown

Hefin David

 

As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)).  Therefore amendment 91 was not agreed.

 

 

Amendment 112 (Alun Davies) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i).

 

 

 

 

Amendment 113 (Alun Davies)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Lynne Neagle

Mark Reckless

 

John Griffiths

Darren Millar

 

Julie Morgan

Llyr Gruffydd

 

Hefin David

Michelle Brown

 

As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)).  Therefore amendment 113 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 92 (Llyr Gruffydd)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Mark Reckless

Lynne Neagle

 

Darren Millar

John Griffiths

 

Llyr Gruffydd

Julie Morgan

 

Michelle Brown

Hefin David

 

As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)).  Therefore amendment 92 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 93 (Llyr Gruffydd) was not moved.

Amendment 94 (Llyr Gruffydd)

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Mark Reckless

Lynne Neagle

 

Darren Millar

John Griffiths

 

Llyr Gruffydd

Julie Morgan

 

Michelle Brown

Hefin David

 

As the vote was tied, the Chair used her casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20 (ii)).  Therefore amendment 94 was not agreed.

 

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3       Paper(s) to note

The papers were noted.

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3.1   Inquiry into Perinatal Mental Health - Letter from Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board

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3.2   Letter from Rt Hon Robert Halfon MP, Chair of the Education Committee

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3.3   Letter from Dr Sarah Wollaston MP, Chair of the House of Commons Health Committee

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3.4   Letter from Secretary of State for Wales - Wales Act 2017: Principle Appointed Day (PAD)

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3.5   Inquiry into Teachers' Professional Learning and Education - Letter to the Cabinet Secretary for Education

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3.6   Inquiry into The Emotional and Mental Health of Children and Young People -  Letter from Cabinet Secretary for Health, Well-being and Sport

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3.7   Letter from the Cabinet Secretary for Education - The Government's new action plan: Education in Wales: Our National Mission.

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3.8   Letter to the Cabinet Secretary for Education - Community Focussed Schools

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3.9   Letter from the Cabinet Secretary for Education - Inquiry into Supply Teachers

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4       Motion under Standing Order 17.42(ix) to resolve to exclude the public from the meeting on the meeting on 12 October 2017.

As proceedings for Stage 2 were not completed, the Motion was not moved.

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